Let's give them the birdie
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bbyer
In the Magellanic Clouds
the restaurant thing
Yes, I really miss the restaurant thing.
I was yaking on the phone (social distancing I guess) to my AME and we were lamenting we could not meet this Saturday morning at a local buffet (closed of course); they have really good roast ham along with a great salad bar and generally good everything.
O well, I guess it will only be a couple of months, and I did mention we were both getting close to the target bracket. We agreed we can wait a couple of months, but a lifetime would be too long.
Yes, I really miss the restaurant thing.
I was yaking on the phone (social distancing I guess) to my AME and we were lamenting we could not meet this Saturday morning at a local buffet (closed of course); they have really good roast ham along with a great salad bar and generally good everything.
O well, I guess it will only be a couple of months, and I did mention we were both getting close to the target bracket. We agreed we can wait a couple of months, but a lifetime would be too long.
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trumpet nelson
Around The Moon
Yep - I find the "restaurant closed" symptom is having a surprising impact on my life style. I guess I really enjoy good food and good conversion. Ditto with the no-handshake. My dad always taught me about having a firm handshake and looking the person in the eye. In its own way, a lot of this feels un-American.
I figured a while back that it would only be a couple of weeks or so before many of us tired of the restrictions (a reaction which, in its own way, is understandable). Kinda like that long bike ride, when half way through you start wondering "just why am I doing this?" And the "why", in this case, is very compelling. Especially for our age group (!).
So ... keep smiling
and enjoy your new life style at home, and protect your friends, family, and neighbors. I will continue to act like I am a carrier of the virus and do my utmost to avoid any contact. At least during a bike ride, I have a route and destination. Here, we do not have either. But I did manage to insert a smiling face in my text!
Be safe, prayers for our BAC family, and keep up all of the great forum activity.
I figured a while back that it would only be a couple of weeks or so before many of us tired of the restrictions (a reaction which, in its own way, is understandable). Kinda like that long bike ride, when half way through you start wondering "just why am I doing this?" And the "why", in this case, is very compelling. Especially for our age group (!).
So ... keep smiling
and enjoy your new life style at home, and protect your friends, family, and neighbors. I will continue to act like I am a carrier of the virus and do my utmost to avoid any contact. At least during a bike ride, I have a route and destination. Here, we do not have either. But I did manage to insert a smiling face in my text!Be safe, prayers for our BAC family, and keep up all of the great forum activity.
GregJohnson
Orbiting Earth
++++1 to what Nelson says...........
This is a tough time, hang in there.
This is a tough time, hang in there.
Max-1
Orbiting Earth
I am convinced that this entire Covid-19 is one big BS pile. Maybe this whole thing is an experiment to see just how compliant the sheeple are, don't know don't care. I have been on airline flights I have been on the road considerably to 0 ill effects. All I do see is a big hoopla on the media which at this stage I discard as nonsense anyway.
It will take a lot more to convince me that there is anything going on that is anything more than our normal nasty influenza, if that. As for all the people dying wherever well just how many of them were tested before someone wrote on the death certificate Covid-19,, very few certainly in either Italy or Spain.
If someone feels this is real and or just enjoying this horror movie,, have fun. I have developed a theory. Some people need to feel scared and they play act that fiction,,, all the while in the back of their mind they know nothing will happen to them, but it is exciting to be in that theatre.
Not me!! I am not one of those. I see that the restaurant is closed because of BS, well I am not enjoying that at all.
Just saying........
It will take a lot more to convince me that there is anything going on that is anything more than our normal nasty influenza, if that. As for all the people dying wherever well just how many of them were tested before someone wrote on the death certificate Covid-19,, very few certainly in either Italy or Spain.
If someone feels this is real and or just enjoying this horror movie,, have fun. I have developed a theory. Some people need to feel scared and they play act that fiction,,, all the while in the back of their mind they know nothing will happen to them, but it is exciting to be in that theatre.
Not me!! I am not one of those. I see that the restaurant is closed because of BS, well I am not enjoying that at all.
Just saying........
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niechiro
Around The Moon
I'm with you Max. This is being heavily over played. It is serious and has to be taken as such. However, Dr. Fauci on the President's COVID-19 team said that he believes in the end that this will be like a really bad influenza year. We have lost 23,000 to influenza so far and more will die. No one is talking about them. Bills passed for economic relief are fraught with pork for big companies. Those who are higher risk should take appropriate precautions. Massive unemployment will cause deaths to rise and are predicted to be more than those from the virus. I believe that if members want to have fly-ins, that someone hose them with their barbeque by their hangar. As long as there are no more people than 10, there should be no legal problem providing it is not in a location where there is a stay at home order.
Burglaries are down, domestic discord is up.
When I was doing my PhD, half the lab I worked in was computational modelers working with epidemiologists to predict disease spread (https://www.mobs-lab.org/). I worked with them a bunch and took courses with the director of that group to learn the basics of epidemiological spreading models and how to predict these types of things.
100% of that group is freaked out, and 100% of the people they work with are freaked out. It's hard to understate how much this is not a drill, how real it is. The talk about this being just like a bad flu year misses a few things:
1. We didn't have to have any deaths (look at the South Korea model),
2. The reason it's not like the flu is manifold but one important one, why we don't talk about the flu instead, is simply because this isn't priced in as something we have to deal with on a recurring basis,
3. the 100k-200k band of deaths we are talking about is *assuming we take all the social distancing measures*. Without that, the predictions are in the 1m-2m range.
If your concern is that you don't trust the experts, I advise you to start working on your A&P and CFII certificates as you may not trust those experts either. In fact, may as well go mine some bauxite to start designing your own plane, since those Beech engineers don't know enough either probably. Expertise is hard-fought knowledge and it's not something to discredit when it feels counter to ones gut. Society tries *very* hard to put experts outside perverse incentive mechanisms, and 100% of them are ringing the alarm on this one. Anec-data about personal trips outside don't do much to refute any of the evidence and actually bolster the argument that social distancing is probably working.
As an aside, deaths in the US has actually dropped precipitously in the last few weeks, not risen. I understand and can see the logic behind the "actually the cure may be worse than the disease" but that's not what the evidence says so far.
Sorry for a long loaded post - this is serious! Experts are saying it's serious! Please explore why you disagree with the experts and figure out if you're willing to make a wager on a gut feeling they're wrong.
100% of that group is freaked out, and 100% of the people they work with are freaked out. It's hard to understate how much this is not a drill, how real it is. The talk about this being just like a bad flu year misses a few things:
1. We didn't have to have any deaths (look at the South Korea model),
2. The reason it's not like the flu is manifold but one important one, why we don't talk about the flu instead, is simply because this isn't priced in as something we have to deal with on a recurring basis,
3. the 100k-200k band of deaths we are talking about is *assuming we take all the social distancing measures*. Without that, the predictions are in the 1m-2m range.
If your concern is that you don't trust the experts, I advise you to start working on your A&P and CFII certificates as you may not trust those experts either. In fact, may as well go mine some bauxite to start designing your own plane, since those Beech engineers don't know enough either probably. Expertise is hard-fought knowledge and it's not something to discredit when it feels counter to ones gut. Society tries *very* hard to put experts outside perverse incentive mechanisms, and 100% of them are ringing the alarm on this one. Anec-data about personal trips outside don't do much to refute any of the evidence and actually bolster the argument that social distancing is probably working.
As an aside, deaths in the US has actually dropped precipitously in the last few weeks, not risen. I understand and can see the logic behind the "actually the cure may be worse than the disease" but that's not what the evidence says so far.
Sorry for a long loaded post - this is serious! Experts are saying it's serious! Please explore why you disagree with the experts and figure out if you're willing to make a wager on a gut feeling they're wrong.
N6008L
Touring the Galaxy
I remember reading about a 17 year old boy who was ill, and visited a physician. After an examination, the doctor gave the boy a scrap of paper, and a tag with a short piece of string. The boy asked what the paper was. The doctor said it was the address of a coffin maker. He was told to hurry, since there weren't many left. He was told to write his name on the tag, and tie it to his toe. He was told his death was imminent and inevitable. That was during the 1917 Spanish Flu epidemic.
I am glad that this flu does not seem to produce the cytokine storm that is so fatal to the young, turning the healthy and vigorous immune systems of the young against their own bodies. I am in the target demo for this flu, and my children are not. Since the beginning of our country, we have asked the teenage and young men of this country to risk their bodies and lives for us. We may now have to ask our senior population to bear that burden. If it is between putting my life at risk and the economic collapse of our country, i know my choice.
We've been through worse than this. We will get through it this time, too.
I am glad that this flu does not seem to produce the cytokine storm that is so fatal to the young, turning the healthy and vigorous immune systems of the young against their own bodies. I am in the target demo for this flu, and my children are not. Since the beginning of our country, we have asked the teenage and young men of this country to risk their bodies and lives for us. We may now have to ask our senior population to bear that burden. If it is between putting my life at risk and the economic collapse of our country, i know my choice.
We've been through worse than this. We will get through it this time, too.
Max-1
Orbiting Earth
When I was doing my PhD, half the lab I worked in was computational modelers working with epidemiologists to predict disease spread (https://www.mobs-lab.org/). I worked with them a bunch and took courses with the director of that group to learn the basics of epidemiological spreading models and how to predict these types of things.
100% of that group is freaked out, and 100% of the people they work with are freaked out. It's hard to understate how much this is not a drill, how real it is. The talk about this being just like a bad flu year misses a few things:
1. We didn't have to have any deaths (look at the South Korea model),
2. The reason it's not like the flu is manifold but one important one, why we don't talk about the flu instead, is simply because this isn't priced in as something we have to deal with on a recurring basis,
3. the 100k-200k band of deaths we are talking about is *assuming we take all the social distancing measures*. Without that, the predictions are in the 1m-2m range.
If your concern is that you don't trust the experts, I advise you to start working on your A&P and CFII certificates as you may not trust those experts either. In fact, may as well go mine some bauxite to start designing your own plane, since those Beech engineers don't know enough either probably. Expertise is hard-fought knowledge and it's not something to discredit when it feels counter to ones gut. Society tries *very* hard to put experts outside perverse incentive mechanisms, and 100% of them are ringing the alarm on this one. Anec-data about personal trips outside don't do much to refute any of the evidence and actually bolster the argument that social distancing is probably working.
As an aside, deaths in the US has actually dropped precipitously in the last few weeks, not risen. I understand and can see the logic behind the "actually the cure may be worse than the disease" but that's not what the evidence says so far.
Sorry for a long loaded post - this is serious! Experts are saying it's serious! Please explore why you disagree with the experts and figure out if you're willing to make a wager on a gut feeling they're wrong.
What I find curios is that you said Deaths have dropped precipitously from a couple of weeks ago. ?? A couple of weeks ago I think the deaths were under 100 for the whole country. What I would like to establish some trust is that anyone that was claimed dead from Covid 19 is verified as actually having it to begin with.
I listen to the media to the extent that I can, not easy.. to have reporting that is unambiguous and not amorphous. They use such general descriptions as to be nearly meaningless. Imagine getting a clearance like that. "Okay BirdieDog climb and be up there and turn to headlong as long as you have been cleared for the climb". gobbledygook...
markweiss
Headed to Andromeda
You can choose to believe whatever suits you. You can take whatever bits you want from commercial news channels, and you can choose to ignore whatever you wish.
But, the REALITY is that the medical profession are doing their absolute best to contain this event. Many of them have contracted this virus.
A huge number of these heroes, globally, have DIED trying to help others.
The families of these dedicated, selfless people KNOW how REAL this is.
Other causes of illness and death will continue as per normal, this is an “extraâ€.
Humanity is now smart enough to identify this and work on a way to deal with it. I choose to embrace the intelligence of those much smarter than me.
But, the REALITY is that the medical profession are doing their absolute best to contain this event. Many of them have contracted this virus.
A huge number of these heroes, globally, have DIED trying to help others.
The families of these dedicated, selfless people KNOW how REAL this is.
Other causes of illness and death will continue as per normal, this is an “extraâ€.
Humanity is now smart enough to identify this and work on a way to deal with it. I choose to embrace the intelligence of those much smarter than me.
jhbecker
Around The Moon
I suspect the reduction in traffic on the roads has had an effect. Last Friday the local Seattle news reported there was a 80% reduction in accidents of the roads in the Seattle area and a 90& reduction in fatalities since the "stay-at-home" order went into effect here. And I really like how clean the stores that are open are now.
I also got to experience something I haven't done in 30 years. Restaurants in WA can be open for take-out, no sit-in dining allowed. We stopped at one of out favorite lunch places and got a take-out pizza. First time in years that I've eaten sitting in the car. Can't say I missed it, though.
I also got to experience something I haven't done in 30 years. Restaurants in WA can be open for take-out, no sit-in dining allowed. We stopped at one of out favorite lunch places and got a take-out pizza. First time in years that I've eaten sitting in the car. Can't say I missed it, though.